So, if you know someone with BT VIsion then see if you can give your old Vision box a jump start again. Hope this helps someone. This is a cool screen plan! Thank you for your data. This article provides the sunshine within which we are able to observe the fact. PS What does this hack actually do?
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I'm looking forward to see more of your write-ups. If you have time you can also visit my site which indicated below. Started by steve, Apr , previous topic - next topic. Pages: [1]. Hi peeps, i decided to see if i could gain BTfirmware, by hooking up my box to a work BTBB connection with a Btvision account active on it. Got the box to boot up great, interrupted the BB connection and box promptly sulked. His box is running very different firmware to ours and it is running linux. I have an old white BT home hub at home only used as ADSL router which has started to worry me since it now has sprouted a second IP address and a port scan shows that said IP is listening on Port which I find no mention of on the web based interface.
Might swap it with something more generic. If all BT Broadband users were to write to BT clearly saying that they do not want or need their ADSL operator to use this facility surely it would change their position markedly?
If you also mention that any implied consent is withdrawn with immediate effect then my admittedly limited legal knowledge suggests that they would have no possible defence. In any case, we are talking about BT supplied equipment going through BT supplied equipment to say that a product recall has been correctly implemented by a BT customer.
Would respondents be happier if the recall hadn't happened? If I have any issue, it is that they haven't matched up the bag I sent back for recyling - they could have known I was safe from there. I decided to stop using it when Zone Alarm blocked their servers from scanning my network every time I dialled up.
They told me it was their mailservers trying to up date my email. I observed it wasn't mailservers doing it. I wasn't even running an email programme when I dialled up.. If you have 1 trusted router and 1 untrusted router put the trusted router on your line and the untrusted router on ebay. Tried it twice in the past but the performance compared to my Fritz!
Box is absolutely shocking, and now I've learned it has an additional benefit I asked for our BT business Broadband connections without ADSL modems I have a collection going back some years , however, the perplexed sales person at the other end said that I couldn't have the lines without the "free" BT Business hubs.
So in the store box they went, just in case they ask for them back one day, or someone I know needs a replacement. I have never and would never use a proprietory ADSL modem, unless it had my own firewall behind it and NAT'ed; this is what I recommend to all my friends. I am though a little concerned about the implications with IPV6, might be an idea for the Reg to run an article on percieved IPV6 issues and concerns of fellow Reg forum members? I can see a genuine reason for this stuff.
But please don't run a firmware update during peak evening hours, in a manner that bricks the box when not if, in my case the line loses sync. It's a good job I had the necessary equipment to recover it, and my work phone to find the information. Now, Intel is of course an obscure hardware manufacturer whose products few OEMs use, so that doesn't matter.
Does it? As for IPv6, I just have the feeling that the major security issues have yet to be uncovered. Have already heard of an issue where Windows servers with fixed IPv6 addresses pull a second unauthorized address from any router they can see.
A key concern is that with IPv6, ISPs could in principle go as far as to restrict the number of devices which can be connected to a BB router, or even to require that all devices are registered with them before they are granted Internet access. I don't say that will happen, but giving ISPs this capability perhaps isn't wise. The Register - Independent news and views for the tech community. Part of Situation Publishing. Review and manage your consent Here's an overview of our use of cookies, similar technologies and how to manage them.
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User topics Article topics. User topics Article topics Please sign in to join the discussion or create an account. Remember me. BT cheerfully admits snooping on customer LANs BT reserves, and makes use of, the right to remotely detect all devices connected to LANs owned by its broadband customers — for their own good, of course.
Wednesday 25th May GMT penguin slapper. Consequences There were no consequences to them for Phorm - so they certainly did learn the lesson. Don't they, by George? Tuesday 24th May GMT teacake. Yo dawg I herd you like security, so I put an firewall-enable-router behind your firewall-enabled-router so you can hide from teh internets while you hide from your ISP. Wednesday 25th May GMT ppp. Wednesday 25th May GMT nichomach. Upvoted, but if that's what the author meant, that's what the author should have said?
Sir "BT's behavior differs from Apples, exactly how? The answer is simple: recording customer identifying information Apple sharpen their database of cell tower and Wi-Fi hotspots through crowd sourcing location data and have confirmed they retain no customer identifying data such as IMEI or any other unique to the person data.
I hope a judge sets them right quickly. Will people never learn? OR Consider the possibility that the black hats have known all along and now the knowledge is not confined to just the black hats. We don' need no steenkin' title BT Vision box is on a ethernet lead to the hub. After all, they do have previous phorm in this area Tuesday 24th May GMT Sir Runcible Spoon Sir Assuming at least some of these customers have changed their admin password - this kind of implies that they have a back-door in to the BT homehubs, yes?
I wouldn't be surprised if the next version of the BT Home Hub comes with a free telescreen. BristolBachelor So put your own router in between their router and your network - problem solved.
The First Dave "So put your own router in between their router and your network - problem solved. One is a futuristic theme park filled with dinosaurs and the other one is a film. Shocking In the UK, this would be illegal -- and it may also be illegal where you live. A guess There's a setting for Remote Access buried within the hub. No it doesn't PLT devices have discovery protocols by what looks like a periodic broadcast so they can see each other.
Sir Runcible Spoon But the BT HomeHub router is on the local network, and so a judicious bit of logging code in the router allows such things to be captured.
Thanks BT - anything else you need to tell us? The one they serve up ONCE to any device trying to get to the net and in my case has been served to non computing devices The one where they have helpfully blocked ALLL the options to get rid of bar a button that has been known to take hours to work? The one BT business deny exists? BT take action to ensure customers are ok. BT send out replacement kit nice move. BT check to see if new kit is used. BT write to some customers urging them to use new kit I know this as I got a letter.
BT should allow the customer to reserve the right to electrocute themselves. Get orf my network! It's the only way to fly! Re: Purely speculation and quite poor journalism Agreed. And now expect the flood of downvotes from the tinfoil hat brigade A long while ago AC because I don't want to be besieged by irate geeks.
Fantastic Enhanced form? One reason I will not upgrade from the 10MB on VM If you upgrade above 10MB you have to take their nasty little new locked box of tricks, modem cum router. So no worry about pesky things like prosecutions.
Nothing to see here. Well I know for a fact O2 do have backdoor accounts into their routers. Suspicious lot aren't we. Wednesday 25th May GMT dssf. Tuesday 24th May GMT ZimboKraut Firewall after router I have never trusted the plain router firewalls, and therefor have always added an additional firewall after the router.
Thursday 26th May GMT dssf. Tuesday 24th May GMT airwaffle. Or use your own router Still dodgy, but less so than have a backdoor for inbound "scans" Not that legality has had any bearing on their behaviour in the past. Bypassing a customer firewall to detect hardware on the LAN? Tuesday 24th May GMT Anonymous Coward BT router I dumped their Thomson router and bought one of my own anyway, so they'd find themselves unable to connect to the open port they use on their own hubs.
Tuesday 24th May GMT Anonymous Coward Easy to detect They'd just need to park within a half mile of the BT Vision customer's house and 'tune in' on a radio to tell which version of their dreaded Comtrends is in use.
Then again, as the above poster says, most likely the hub is also TR compliant. Can it do other stuff? Oh hell yeah. HTH PS. Note particularly in the above quote "Our service provider customers want to manage every node in the home network without modifying the home gateway or broadband router in any way" So just swapping out the hub is not going to solve the problem that your PLTs are ratting on you.
Avoided this Having sorted the setup for a friend, I had no need to install their software as it's not been necessary and I'm aware just what this can do to a system. The ICO? Good one, hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha. Wonder what version was used in this instance. Get rid. SMNP I know what ports , are used for. Tuesday 24th May GMT umacf24 For Paranoid Nutters Only If you are the sort of tinfoil-hat loony who actually cares about this sort of thing, you should have a hardware firewall between your network and the BT-managed home hub.
Like I do. Job's a good 'un. You can't be too careful I'm running Linux. But, and here's the snag, it will only work at the BT registered address so that on-demand services can be paid for by the account holder. My personal circumstances have changed dramatically lately, and my BT vision service was working fine until quite recently when my circumstances changed and it was cancelled.
So, what's my background and motivation? I hear you cry. Well, background wise, I'm a knobby bloke who likes taking stuff apart.
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